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Conjunction Party!
StrangerComeKnockingDate: Sunday, 13 Jan 2013, 10:11 PM | Message # 1
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Yeah, we're having a little conjunction party over here. Because we need some. WHat are conjunctions? Well, in English, they're FANBOYS.

For
And [✓]
Nor [✓]
But [✓]
Or [✓]
Yet
So

Got a word? We'd love to see it.



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LicoricePleaseDate: Sunday, 13 Jan 2013, 10:31 PM | Message # 2
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Alright, first things first: "For" the Conjunction is different from "for" the preposition. for the preposition has 15 definitions, according to M-W.com. For the Conjunction, in English, means "because". Now, in English, Because is not one of our precious FANBOYS, but it would be much easier to have For and Because be the same conjunction.

Also: All holds barred. I don't think Yet should be an Independent Conjunction (IC); it's used to rarely that I think it should be a Dependent Conjunction (DC). Then again, we could consolodate it with But.


 
StrangerComeKnockingDate: Tuesday, 15 Jan 2013, 11:15 AM | Message # 3
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o_O Do you mean "no holds barred"? Just curious...


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LicoricePleaseDate: Wednesday, 16 Jan 2013, 8:53 PM | Message # 4
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Do you mean "no holds barred"? Just curious...
I have no idea what I was thinking


 
StrangerComeKnockingDate: Monday, 25 Feb 2013, 3:03 PM | Message # 5
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pum - but (contrasting [not x but y)
mɛf - but (however, protest)

"Not the red one, but the blue one!" -> pum
"But you said the red one!" -> mɛf

"I'm not going to lie, but I can soften the blow." -> mɛf
"I'm not going to tell you straight, but give you a riddle." -> pum



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LicoricePleaseDate: Sunday, 03 Mar 2013, 7:04 AM | Message # 6
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Yesssssss. I love these.

 
StrangerComeKnockingDate: Sunday, 03 Mar 2013, 12:46 PM | Message # 7
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I finally thought of what I was trying to think of:

pum - but (contrasting [not x but y)
mɛf - but (clause conjunction)



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LicoricePleaseDate: Sunday, 03 Mar 2013, 4:31 PM | Message # 8
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They're both clause conjunctions. mɛf is mostly used for D-clauses, and also means "yet" in English.

 
StrangerComeKnockingDate: Sunday, 03 Mar 2013, 4:36 PM | Message # 9
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They're both clause conjunctions

Yeah, but however/protest was all I could think of at the time.



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LicoricePleaseDate: Sunday, 03 Mar 2013, 4:54 PM | Message # 10
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however/protest is closer to its use and meaning, I think.

 
StrangerComeKnockingDate: Sunday, 03 Mar 2013, 5:02 PM | Message # 11
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however/protest is closer to its use and meaning, I think.

And how does one list it in the Dictionary so it is understood?



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LicoricePleaseDate: Sunday, 03 Mar 2013, 5:09 PM | Message # 12
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Well, it would have to go under both "yet" and "but", and since we're using it solely for D-clauses (though we don't have to), then that must be mentioned. 

but - 1. (however [or nevertheless]) mɛf USAGE NOTE: This begins dependent clauses only.


 
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