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Word Order Differences
LicoricePleaseDate: Tuesday, 30 Apr 2013, 7:03 PM | Message # 1
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This thread is for more complex things than "adverb in front, adjective/preposition in back". Someone brings us an example, we work out the word/phrase order, then maybe other suggest examples under the new rule so that we can find exceptions or just plain get used to the rule.

So first example:
"He didn't wait for her to move to go down the slide" in English is also "He didn't wait to go down the slide for her to move". Let's break it down:
(he) - noun phrase, subject
[didn't wait to go down the slide] - verb phrase 1
[to move] - verb phrase 2
(for her to move) - preposition phrase.

The question is whether or not we can split verb phrase 1 or even if it's preferable to split it.


 
StrangerComeKnockingDate: Tuesday, 30 Apr 2013, 7:57 PM | Message # 2
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Maybe it could be...

"He didn't wait for her to move...that he went down the slide."

But I don't think that could be applied to all instances.



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LicoricePleaseDate: Wednesday, 01 May 2013, 1:26 AM | Message # 3
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Maybe we could have another conjunction altogether?

 
StrangerComeKnockingDate: Wednesday, 01 May 2013, 7:25 AM | Message # 4
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What would be the purpose of this conjunction? How would it work?


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LicoricePleaseDate: Wednesday, 01 May 2013, 1:53 PM | Message # 5
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It would separate the prepositional clause from the rest of the sentence. As for how it works, I can think of a few options:

"He didn't wait to go down the slide for her; [conj]she moved." 
"He didn't wait to go down the slide; [conj]for her to move."
"He  went down the slide and didn't wait for her; [conj]until she moved."

Can you think of any more options? We probably need a few constructions.


 
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